Nowadays living and working abroad is something natural. Almost in every family is a person who went abroad to find a better life. What is the favorite destination of Polish citizens? The answer is obvious: Great Britain! As the official statistics shows in 2012, there were nearly 700,000 immigrants.Their work there is very heavy.For now most of them are blue-collar workers. However, young poles already brought up in England. That's why soon poles also occupy better jobs.
Obviously this is not the only one country which they are leaving to. Every year numbers of Poles in Germany, Norway, Denmark and Sweden is growing. Currently in Germany is 500 000 Poles, in Norway 65 000 (increased by 44%f from 2010), and 43 000 in Denmark. In addition, Italy (88 000) and the Netherlands are still an important destination especially for seasonal work. In the past USA were favorite but since joining the European Union all changed. Now the Poles can legally work in the whole European Union.
Obviously this is not the only one country which they are leaving to. Every year numbers of Poles in Germany, Norway, Denmark and Sweden is growing. Currently in Germany is 500 000 Poles, in Norway 65 000 (increased by 44%f from 2010), and 43 000 in Denmark. In addition, Italy (88 000) and the Netherlands are still an important destination especially for seasonal work. In the past USA were favorite but since joining the European Union all changed. Now the Poles can legally work in the whole European Union.
Why are they leaving?
The answer is not easy. The majority of migrants are young people between 25 and 34 years of age. Their number is 700,000 which represents 44% of all immigrants. It means that every ninth young Pole leave her or his country. Abroad, they see for themselves a greater perspectives and a chance to develop. Have they ever come back? I don't think so. In Poland, there is still no work for them, they have to live with their parents because they do not have money to own apartment. Therefore, I wish them luck. I hope they will find the perfect life abroad.
The positive side of immigration
- better wages
- greater social support
- learning a language
- appreciated the experience
The positive side of immigration
- better wages
- greater social support
- learning a language
- appreciated the experience
http://polska.newsweek.pl/liczba-polakow-na-emigracji-powody-emigracji-polakow-emigracja-zarobkowa-polacy-za-granica-newsweek-pl,artykuly,282588,1.html
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonia
http://www.bankier.pl/wiadomosc/Polacy-na-emigracji-dlaczego-nie-wracaja-3086100.html
In my opinion it is popular in our country but not too much. An I cannot agree that "almost in every family is a person who went abroad to find a better life". It depends from many factors for example from place when people live. I agree that the most popular country when Polish people go is Great Britain. But if I went live abroad I would choose Norway. In my opinion this country is really interesting. And it wasn't surprising for me when I found out that above 65000 Polish people live there.
ReplyDeleteI agree that many Poles go abroad to find better life,but in my opinion this number is slowly decreasing.Nowadays,it's hard to find good job without experience in such countries as Great Britain or Germany,because it is very popular directions for emigrats. I think that lots of young people who go abroad,suddenly they could become dissapointed,because it's not so easy to live,as they previous imagine. In my opinion,western Europe countries are not proper direction for Poles.
ReplyDeleteThere is a lot of people in my family and close friend who decided to work abroad. It is working like an avalanche. When someone goes abroad in the next year he or her finds place to work for another people. Of course difference in wage is a great incentive but in my opinion it is not the only cause. Most of them get credit for their hard work. Poles are seeing as a hardworking and responsible employees. They are often promote very quickly. In the most of stories, at the begging only one person (usually father) work temporary abroad but after few years he or her take whole family there and start a new life. Why? Answer is so easy. For example in Poland nurse can make less than 2 000zł in UK equivalent of 10 000zl per month and social respect. Life abroad is much easier than in our adored motherland.
ReplyDeleteI believe that most people choose to go abroad for work reasons, some because of the school. My friend from high school she moved to the UK to study. Currently, she does not want to return to Polish, she is afraid that in the home country will not work and there is no future.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that, like most young people think. The fact is that because of the open borders within the European Union movement of migrants is a mass phenomenon, and not only for Poles traveling to the UK or Germany. It is increasingly difficult to find work abroad now.
sometimes it seems to me that people go abroad not only to work. They want to start a new life, so they decide not to return. Very well, if they find what they are looking for, if they forget at the same time with their families is worse.
I agree with this idea, I think the same. If I graduate from study, I will go abroad. Nowadays in Poland young people don't have a chance to broaden the mind, they can't develop skills. For example if young people are well-off social groups, they will have opportunity to good start in life. If you don't have money, you will live with your parents whole life. It is ridiculous because of absurd conditions in our country for young people. However, I think that abroad will be hard too, but at the beggining. If you find job (for example in a salad bar or at restaurant), you will live on good living standard. I know about it because my friend is abroad - he is very happy now. When he was in Poland, he looked for job about 3 months... He decided go to UK, it was the best decision of his life, he can't complain :)
ReplyDeleteThe times, when Poles went crazy about working abroad in my opinion are over. It happened right, after Poland entered the Shengen zone. Nowadays, many of my friends want to study, or catch some experience abroad, and then come back to poland. I think that we can't think in this way, that right after studies we are going abroad, becouse they pay more. We need to improve out own economics, and for me we cant do it when we are abroad. In my family, nobody went to work abroad. I think its good way. From the other hand if I had to leave my country, I would probalby choose brasil, or some asia country. They lifestyle is much different, and you don't have to do that much to have fun from your life.
ReplyDeleteI think that emigration to more developed countries is a great idea. But not for everyone. If you are a young person after a good college and you know languages then in most cases going abroad turns out to be a brilliant life decision. I have many friends who went to various places like the Netherlands, England, Thailand, Malta and they fulfill these conditions. And now they are doing great. I wanted to go to Stockholm to study and live there after graduation. Unfortunately, I was not able to afford it. I just hope that someday I'll be able to emigrate there.
ReplyDeleteThe situation is different when people who have no particular education blindly going west just like the farmers in the novel "The Grapes of Wrath" by J. Steinbeck. Thinking only about the beautiful orchards in California.
Emigration in Poland is a very serious problem but I think that we cannot blame people who left our country. As they didn't have a job here, they probably got unemployment benefit - now they are self-supporting and other people don't have to pay for them. As long as unemployment level among young is high and salaries are low, people will choose emigration - it's a chance for a better life.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure if I would like to leave Poland for the rest of my life but I do not exclude such possibility. I know that I don't want to spend all my life working in a shop or cleaning toilets so I am ready to move from my city or country to get better job. Countries that I would like to live in the most are Norway, Great Britain, Canada and Singapore. If I had enough money I would take my family with me - firstly, because of my egoism and secondly, because I believe that they would have more opportunities for development abroad.
It's true that many Poles go abroad, because they find it more prospective for themselves. I have to admit that it's a good idea to look for a place that we would like to live in, but currently we can see some changes in young people's attitude. More and more people my age decide to stay in Poland not because they don't have an opportunity to go abroad. They seem to enjoy living here and they say they prefer to improve living conditions in our country. It's comforting that there are people who believe in the possibility of finding happiness in their own country.
ReplyDeleteIt seems obvious that conditions on Polish labor market are unfavourable. Especially young graduates have to face the problem of high unemployment rate. There is a possibility to migrate, but actually it does not satisfy my needs. I would like to study abroad, but I do not want to be forced to leave to find any job. But here is the good news: according to recent forecast, unemployment in Poland is expected to decrease slightly in 2014, so maybe the decision to migrate will not be obligatory any more.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion most people choose to go abroad for work reasons. Mostly people who want to find a better job and improve their quality of life go abroad or students after graduation. There is nothing wrong with that. I think, if people who went abroad are happier there it means that they made a good choice.
ReplyDeleteCertainly it's easier to escape when it's hard to live where you are than try to achieve success living here. In my opinion majority of those who emigrate are people with no ambitions, looking for a simple way to earn money. They have no idea how to create a place of work for themself in Poland, and they are not interesting in doing this. Apart from this lots of educated Poles go abroad because of better perspectives, but wait a minute? Isn't it because of lack of reasonable and resourceful people in Polish market why we're developing so slowly? No one can change the place you live in exept you, so think about it with a little more effort and reconsider where exactly you want to see the effects of your hard work.
ReplyDeleteNowadays people feel free, and usually young people don't indentify with their homeland. Which is motivating them to move. and why not, if they have possibility. Of course the biggest immigration wave was after Poland joining to UE, people decided to change their lifes. The most common cause is economic thing, the payment in other countries is higher so people are moving to earn money and just live better. I think that living abroad is really good to learn language or to study, because universities abroad are better that in Poland. Immigration is lnked up with lot of drawback like you are far away from your home, your family. Whats the worst, sometimes adult people decide to leave their children, and then they are growing up with grandparents. But if somebody is open for changes, not afraid, and wants to try other life I think it is great idea.
ReplyDeletePeople decide to go to work abroad because for the same thing you would do in Poland you get much more money in other countries. The only problem is that that job very rarely is prestigious. So I think that if someone plans to go to work to GB o any other country its a bad idea to loose 5 years for studies.
ReplyDeleteI think that most of Poles arrive abroad becouse want to earn much in short time. They don't want to stay there for whole life. They like Poland, they don't imagine to live abroad. They want to decide to turn back in one moment. To live in their own country but with more money. They have here everythig it's impossible to left it, don't think about it. Probably when the economic situation improve in Poland, most of the emigrants turn back.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything, with one exception. There are definitely some people who want to life stupid beatik life. I know a few of them.
ReplyDeleteI agree with everything, with one exception. There are definitely some people who want to life stupid beatik life. I know a few of them.
ReplyDeleteI agree that living abroad is vpopular I know a lot of people in my region and family who emigrated looking for better life. Few years ago I thouth that it will change that people will stay but know I understand that it is getting worse. And I'm happy when I see that someone have better life abroad but I'm sad that he can't have this in his Country. Our government should be ashame of this.
ReplyDeleteI think it's a good idea to go abroad and live there... Poland doesn't give young people as good possibilities as other countries for example UK. My close friend went to Aberystwyth. She studies and works there and she is really happy. She doesn't regret her decision. However, it's not a postive solution for everybody. In my opinion it depends on a personality. If we are not strongly connected with our family or other people or places around, we can go. Otherwise, feeling a homesick can be difficult.
ReplyDeleteAmong people I know there are only two who decided to live abroad. And one of them came back. I think that there are more options for employment and better wages abroad. But decision of leaving should be considered carefully. It depends on the character and personal situation whether going to another country becomes good or bad solution. Some people may miss Poland too much to feel happy in different place.
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ReplyDeleteNowadays unemployment is the most visible problem, which societies have to cope with. It's usually the main reason for emigration among Poles. Regardless, it's acknowledged that living and working abroad seems to be more comfortable and worth its value. It might be a great occasion to gain new qualifications and skills, which may be really useful in applying for a new vacancy. One can broaden their minds and learn some interesting as well as memorable things about culture, climate and residents. It might be an adventure and place of your live! Conversely, parents who are still on the move, have more problems with their children, especially they have more often a big fuss with their growing up teenagers, because of the immense distance, which separates them. As for working out of frontiers, it might have a bad influence on family members, who stay and still live at motherland. In spite of its disadvantages, emigration has a great deal of advantages!
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion Poles go abroad because of the tax-free value, as this value in Poland is one of the lowest among European countries, which means it is much easier to save money abroad. The second reason is the weather, many people just like more sunny climate. On the other hand we should remember that a lot of people leave their family in Poland and they feel homeless abroad.
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ReplyDeleteMigration is a topic that receives wide public interest also in Lithuania, where I am from. It is really sad to me that my country is among the highest countries by emigration rate in EU. From 2004 almost 500 thousand people left their homes. The UK remains the main destination country, followed by Ireland, Germany and Norway. In my opinion it is great that people are searching for better life. Government should provide better conditions for its citizens to prevent migration.
ReplyDeleteIn todays world more and more people suffer from unemployment. Some of them find it fruitful to work abroad. Why? In my opinion the answer is easy: they can not only find the job there, but also they earn more having the same responisibilities as in Poland. What is more, going abroad is a wonderful chance for young people to develop language. Even working as a waiter you can learn a lot, speak more fluentely and, as a consequence become more valuable after coming back to Poland. When its talked about coming back... a lot of people said that a great deal of emigrants doesn't come back. I think that it is normal. I mean that if people have a well-paid job, social support, good living conditions and capability to draft all family, there is no point in going back to Poland.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion it is really sad that so many young people need to go abroad just because they can't find a job in their motherland... Emigration is a problem that affect not only Poland but also many other countries. I understand a desire to explore different states or possibility to study abroad but when people are forced to leave homeland it seems like something was done wrong by the government... Folks are the biggest value of each country so we should do everything to keep them in the Poland.
ReplyDeleteThe departure and living abroad is very popular. I have a cousin who went to the United States. My aunt lives in Spain. Both founded a family there and they are very happy.
ReplyDeleteMany people go, although not always in another country is as good as we think. I do not want to leave Poland permanently. Maybe for a year. That is all. I believe that in our country are many opportunities for young people and are great prospects. However, you need to learn, be smart and be able to use all the opportunities given to us. You need to have an idea of your career. Without this, even abroad, will not succeed.
Our country is not giving young people good opportunities for their personal development and myself, I cannot wait to go abroad after finishing studies. And maybe I will not be successfull as I imagine to be, but at least I will use the opportunity to travel and live wherever I want to
ReplyDeleteNow in UK are more than 2,000,000 Poles! Only in the United Kingdom. That's true, most people have at least one person in family, who have migrated. Abroad is better life, easier life. They are working (mostly in factories and shops) and they earn enough money to live. But there are a lot of cons. These people are missing family, friends, country.. They should be able to live a dignified life in their country, in Poland.
ReplyDeleteMore and more people are leaving for a better life abroad .. who will stay in the country?
I understand people who emigrate because the have a need to travel all the time or they know, that their homeland must be somewhere else. But it is hard to me understand those who complain on that “in Poland you can’t make a pile”, that “it is impossible to make ends meet”. To my mind Poles who decide to leave Poland to look for better live are in majority confused people who don’t know what to do with theirs lives. Because I believe that the success(good job, salary etc.) depends only on you.
ReplyDeleteIt's true that Polish economy doesn't grow as fast as the European that's why we have a problem with mass unemployment. It's said it's wise to run away from Poland because there is no chance for prosperous life. But be no fool! Poles abroad usually do really hard manual labor. They earn much more money but they stay away from their family and friends being homesick. Is it really worth the prize?
ReplyDeleteThese days some people are being more and more unpleased because of relatively low salaries. That’s why people decide to find a job abroad. They choose it because they are obliged to support their family. Without money they can’t provide good living. One way of looking for better salaries is moving out. There is a little probability that people who changed their living, would want to come back to Poland. I can find some positive aspects in emigrating. It cannot be denied that this decision brings unpleasant effects because sometimes you have to leave your family. A separation could be the toughest thing you have ever experienced. There is some Polish immigrants who settled in the UK. This amount of people is surprisingly huge. In some countries there is also a better health service, opportunity to learning and improving foreign language.
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ReplyDeleteI personally believe that many polish emigrants would like to come back to their homeland but it is not so easy. I can imagine how difficult it must be to make a decision about starting everything from the beginning, especially for families with kids. Secondly living conditions, wages, social support in Poland are still incomparably worse. Therefore we can assume that Great Britain will stay home for massive community of polish immigrants for long.
ReplyDeleteI think it's fine as long as they don't bring an embarrassment to our nation. Many Poles sadly emigrate to the UK or Germany and then take social support while working illegally in Polish communities, never bothering to learn the language or move up the corporate ladder. It's honestly degrading to be thought of as one nation with them for ambitious immigrants.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I don't believe that Britain will stay as a home for some Poles as soon as they decline social support. Many of them will come back to Poland because they have their families here. All in all it's a vicious cycle, especially when Poles returning from abroad have this strange attitude of being well-traveled and superior to their kin. I've met people with this approach and it's as funny as it is sad when they clash with their homeland's reality.
Every time I read or listen about massive amounts of Poles leaving our country to get a job, I get slightly sad. It is undoubtedly bad that people find it hard to get a decent, well-paid job in Poland. However, I am also disappointed that those people don't want to change economical and political situation in our country. They choose an easier option - to change a place where they live.
ReplyDeleteI think that the world now is true global village. Because of that we have special opportunity to use this phenomenon of globalization to get experience and compare other reality. In fact nowdays living in difference parts of Poland is comprable to spend life in other european countries. If we have a opportunity to make our life better, it is worth to try.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree with notion that they are leaving Poland because there is no work for them. It's not true. For example in Warsaw there are only 2% of unemployment. However in many cases it isn't dream job. Better wages, greater social support, learning a language, appreciated the experience - ok, that sounds great, but what about loneliness? We live in diferent country, surrounded by strangers. It's not for me. I like traveling but for 1 month - not for whole life.
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ReplyDeleteIf we try to look on our history, it will be really clear, that our country always were a place, from which people try to escape. Some people would say that this situation is caused by our hard geopolitical location – between Germany and Russia – but in my opinion it is not only reason. The other is that in our nation people are too much focused on fight between themselves and that is why had happened such dark times like 3 Partitions of Poland. The mentality of Poles is horrible.
I’m also fed up with Poles fighting against each other and I’m trying to look for place when people are not that envious and my children will not grow up in hateness. Maybe Uruguay or Brazil…
The sad thing about the people leaving Poland is that they're usually really intelligent. I have a lot of colleagues which decided to study abroad or they just left studies to get a job in the other country. My friend was studying at PWr and he threw his studies and went to USA. Now he's a cook in a really good restaurant and he earns much more money than he ever would after studies in Poland. Now he's collecting money because he want to study in the USA. I want to leave Poland too, because I know that abroad I can have more opportunities to get better job, better money and better life for me and my future family. I would gladly stay in Poland, if only there were more opportunities for self-development in the context of career and private life.
ReplyDeleteI agree that many Poles go abroad to other countries to find well-paid job. At first, they started as a waiter/waitress or they work in the resaturants to clean dishes, but still the salary is better than in rare worksites. Sooner or later soemone offer them a promotion and then they start to earn a big sum of money. My point is, it's sad that Poland is not offering a better conditions to get a good salary.
ReplyDeleteI know that living in Poland is not easy in many ways, but I believe that is why we should be here and make our country better. If we want our country do be better and easier to live in, it's our job to work on that even if its hard. Money is important, but there are things that are more important and we should all remember that.
ReplyDeleteGreat Britain is one of the most popular target for polish immigrants. It's true. That's because of the high salaries and wages. However situation is changing now. Brexit can limit the number of immigrants to England. Situation is very seriously and the state will try to reduce some benefits for polish families. Poles don't work only as blue-collar workers. There are many IT specialists, banks' employees and managers. Poles are everywhere. They earn more and more. Also the become supervisors and headmasters. Our citizens work harder and are better educated than English. In most cases they just want to works. English are lazy and they would like to live only from the benefits given by the state. That's why the polish workers are so popular in this country.
ReplyDeleteI'm not against emigration, because I know that this phenomenon has a positive sides too, for me the most important one is a opportunity to get know a new culture and people which in consequence it makes us more open-minded. But, the saddest situation is when people actually are obliged to go abroad, because they can't live with dignity in Poland. Unfortunately, I don't think that this situation is going to change in some years.
ReplyDeletePeople mostly choose Great Britain because of high salary (after conversion to zloty) and good "social". There's live one of the biggest group of Poles. And what's now, after Brexit? I think they will stay them, for people whose have been living there so long it's not a problem.
ReplyDeleteNow the highest part of emigrants are young, graduated people and "young adults", they are looking for better options, new jobs, sometimes they only want to travel and choose they "place on earth". But nowadays migrations are natural, people go abroad and lots of people from other countries come to us.
Going abroad for work was especially popular a few years ago, now those numbers are slowly decreasing. In the west, people earn more for the same work - especially nurses, that's why people leave. The other group are young people just after graduation who can't find work here. I do not want to leave permanently, I would rather look for work here.
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ReplyDeleteA large number of Poles go off abroad because there are better living conditionscand wages. I have friends who go to England to look for a job and when they find they stay there. They have better wage and have better live than in Polnad. But I know people who come back to Poland because they have here friends and family and they long for them.
ReplyDeleteThis is very unsatisfying to admit that poles prefer to live abroad. It is sad because they choose to leave to have better lifes. They can earn more money in other countries so the use the opportunity. It is probably not easy to take that risk of living in a strange country and they know the price. This ‚price’ is way higher than it could be in Poland. The thing is that our country just don’t offer good jobs or proper money for young people.
ReplyDeleteI think there is nothing wrong in going abroad to find a better life. There is a lot of benefits but also disadvantages. As it was said in the article, you can learn another language, you obviously earn a lot more than in Poland, even if you don’t work in a big company. You can have a full social care. Your kids can have better perspectives for the future.
ReplyDeleteI think the biggest problem at first can be a language barrier. One of disadvantages is that you don’t know anyone there in the most of the cases. Your family is far away from you, so you probably miss them. And sometimes is hard to domesticate, because of new culture and new people. That’s why I admire people who went to another country to work there, because it’s not a way for everyone.
I definitely agree with my previous speaker. Emigrating abroad is something common and popular. Why shouldn't Poles work abroad when we also have many immigrants (for example from Ukraine) working in Poland? It's a chance for young people to earn money, meet new people, see another culture. Of course, it's not anything cheerful that young people leave our country not planning to come back, but to be honest looking at Polish reality I'm not even surprised. Personally, I wouldn't go to live abroad. However, I have nothing againt this phenomenon.
ReplyDeleteI agree that really many people in young age decide to leave Poland and go abroad. Probably as this text is showing they mostly move to UK. I guess that going and working abroad might be very interesting experience, not only you will learn better new language but also get to know other culture. It is definitely an experience that opens one's mind. I guess I'm considering this sort of adventure, but surly for now only temporarily not forever. For me the biggest problem is not the fact that I would leave Poland but the fact that I would have to see my family so rare. It's not a surprise that Poles leaves this country. There are problems with getting a job, people are conservative and racist and the government is ruining every single part of this country piece by piece. While the world is going on, Poland is going backwards.
ReplyDeleteIn my family there aren't any emigrants, so I don't know direct reasons, why people leave homeland. I can only suppose, that the main cause of people's emigration is money. They leave, because in some countries it's easier to find a job or to earn money. Specialists like accountants dealing with MSSF don't have enough possibilities on polish job market, because only about 300 companies in Poland use MSSF.
ReplyDeletePersonally I would prefer to stay in my homeland to be close to my family and friends. But if I had difficulties with finding appropriate job, I think I would consider working and living abroad (maybe not permanently, but for a while).
It is sad that so many of our countrymen were forced to work abroad to live with dignity. At present, it seems to me that the problem of employment is not as large as there are many programs supporting the development of young people. Personally, I would not like to set up a family abroad. I feel good in my country and here I would like to work and raise children close to people important to me. Perhaps the foreign gives more opportunities for personal development and a better future prospect. However, Poland is my home. Our country is developing economically and provides us with good conditions for development. I know people living in Western European countries considered to be better developed and richer, who feel threatened and harassed because of their country of origin. He says Polish saying: There's no place like home is the best.
ReplyDeleteI think that working abroad (when it comes to hard work such as harvesting fruit, work in a factory) is good, but only for short period. It brings a extra profit when you want to earn some money on vacation, but if we are to do it throughout all you life, you will get bored with it. However, for a longer period of work abroad is good option only for those who are educated and work in their profession, because they can do what they like and earn more. In addition, we can improve our language skills and make new friends.
ReplyDeleteIn my family many young people go abroad to work. For example, my cousin Amadeusz didn't see any perspective after his studies and made a decision to go to Germany, where he has a lot of opportunities. As Master of Arts in Philosophy my cousin can start scientific career on many universities. In Poland he won't have access to uncharted materials (the most important philosophers worked and lived in Germany and Austria).
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion polish emigration is growing and growing. Now I’m pretty aware of it, because we are losing our teenagers, our potential as a country. The most popular destination is the UK, it isn’t a surprise, due to two reasons – the first would be language, nowadays everyone speaks English, and the second reason is social help. For those reasons, life in UK is much easier, than in other county (for example in Spain). Myself I was thinking about moving abroad, but after deeper consideretion, I decided not to, because I feel attached and I thought I would miss my family and those who are close to me. I belive that I’m going to get various carieer oppurtonities here in Poland, and that it is not neccessary for me to leave my homeland, to have a decent life.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the comment above. But to be sure, I think that emigrants are just egoists. They run away to another country only to earn more money. But they don't think about their country. This situation is very visible when it comes to doctors. A lot of people study medicine in Poland - for free or almost for free. Ant then they run away to another countries to earn more. Is it fair? Let's have a look in the future of Poland. If the situation doesn't change, we will have no people to treat us. I understand that sometimes people are forced to leave Poland because of personal reasons. But it's only a small percentage of Polish emigrants..
ReplyDeleteI can't agree that in Poland is still no work for people and they have to live with their parents because of lack of money. I see, that this article was written about 4 years ago. Now unemployment rate in Poland is really low. There are job advertisements everywhere (really, I was shopping two weeks ago and in most shops were cards, that they need a person to the job). Another matter - earnings. I agree that salaries in Poland compared to abroad are very low, even if we take into account the difference in prices. Unfortunately, people often need money so much, so they have to leave the country and the family which they love.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with that text. Personally I know a lot of people who went abroad for work. They are living in nice flats, they save money and they are happy about decision they made. Living in a foreing country can be hard but for people who are brave it is great option. You can learn new language, meet interesting people and get new experiences. I think that nowadays we have so many options to choose. We can stay in our country or we can go abroad and start a new life.
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ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, I also know many people who have flown to other countries in order to earn more money. Emigration is a phenomenon that is growing all the time, although from what I observe the economic market in our country, this situation is improving and there are more positions of well-paid jobs, so maybe in the future Poland will stop its youth inour country.
Interestingly, many foreigners come to Poland using this opportunity, that many of us leave the country, there are many jobs, and the conditions are not the worst.
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ReplyDeleteI think it is totally normal that people (especially young) want to go abroad and work there. It is their chance. If they can't earn enought in homeland, if they want brush up their knowledge of foreign language, it they want get the flavour of living in others countries - it is one of the best ideas! It is not obligatory to stay abroad forever. They can get back whenever they want. In my opinion it can be great adventure with huge benefits!
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion the reason why young Poles leave abroad it’s not only they don’t see perspectives for themselves in Poland but they leave because they can go abroad to try how living in foreign countries looks. They work abroad, study, sightsee, they live and take as much as they can get from life. In few years they come back to Poland saving enough money to buy an apartment or build a house. Rich in work experiences with fluent languages skills are valuable workers on the labour market. Many of my friends who left Poland to live abroad came back after few years. But it’s not a rule of course. Some of them have started a family abroad and have found there good place to live.
ReplyDeleteI know some people who decided to work and live abroad. I believe that living in foreign country is difficult but also have a many positive aspects. It’s true that working abroad can help us to earn money in short time. We can improve our language skills and gain some experiences. But some people who decided to leave the homeland think that there is no employment in Poland. It’s not true but the earnings are low and this is the main reason why people decided to work abroad. If you ask me, I don’t want to live abroad. I prefer to live in Poland, because I have my family and friends here.
ReplyDeleteI think that the number of Poles emigrating to more developed countries, such as Germany or Great Britain, is slowly decreasing. The situation on the Polish labor market has improved in recent years, thanks to which young people decide to stay in Poland and make a life here.
ReplyDeleteMigration is a hard topic and it’s true that many young people left Poland to find a better life. To this day we have a problem with it and Poland pretty much doesn’t do anything to make it stop or encourage people that left to come back. But now the situation in our country is better than ever before and maybe in few years, it will make migrants come back. Migration is usually great for people, but not always. There are many situations when people leave homes and they are alone in the new country and don’t know what to do. Those people could even become homeless or need to come back home with empty hands. Migration is a risk that not everyone could take but some situations, like being poor or some traumatic events can make us take that risk.
ReplyDeleteNowadays many people decide to live abroad as in Poland they don't see any perspectives or chances to develop and perform the job they are prepared for. Finding work in somebody's chosen field is sometimes difficult comparing to the chances the person has in other country. Many people find themselves in some sort of conundrum and encouraged by higher payments and better living conditions as well as difficulties in finding a job in their homeland decide to leave.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion rather than discussing why is it better to stay abroad, we should think what our beloved country do to encourage emigrants to come back, or to stay. They force young people in some sectors to work in country for some years, and prevent them from leaving, also they promise that taxes will be lower and that there will be more vacancies. But words are words and you can't buy food and pay with promises. A worker is underestimated and paid ridiculously low money. Look at the doctors working 3 times more than in other countries and still be paid less - they are dying in work just to earn at least that much to pay taxes. So is it so strange that young people don't see their future in this place? I also will leave this country after studies, probably forever, I don't want to live here - call me unpatriotic, sure, but earlier prove that I'm wrong.
ReplyDeleteThis is very sad news. In my opinion, the Polish government doesn't do enough to convince young Polish people to stay in their country. I would love to say that's not that bad in here and it's true to some degree! For example Ukrainians imigrate to our country very eagerly. Recentely, Poland is also starting to be become an attractive location to get a job by Spanish people. A lot of people from different countries come to visit our beautiful homeland. You can see a lot of foreigners at our universities. When you look at what we've been trough as a country, look at today from the perspective of so many years of war and communism - Poland experiences amazing prosperity these days. But unfortunately, a lot of young Poles still struggle with finding a job, and the government is not intrested enough in searching for a solution, PiS talks a lot about patriotism but instead of improving the economy, decides to waste our money on 'idependence benches' for 4 mln zł...
ReplyDeleteSooooooo, it is personal for me cause I am not polish. I know why I left my country and my reasons are very obvious. I see that in Poland people don't like immigrants at all. They hate everybody who are not from Poland.Once I was running away from angry man who wanted to hurt me. And his reason to hurt me was language that I was speaking. Come on people, we live in 21 century, why somebody hates another person only because of nationality? Most people immigrate only looking for better life, so I don't see any reason to hate somebody. People don't immigrate because of great life situation, they leave their countries and homes only because they do not have another choice.
ReplyDeleteIt is widely believed that working abroad is more perspective, but to be honest, I am really surprised that so many Poles go abroad to find a better job. There is no doubt that there is a number of advantages of immigration. The greatest positive aspect is learning a language. It can encourage young people to go abroad to seasonal work. Another positive side is a perspective to develop, especially for people who have just got a degree and have not rewarding work. Additionally, Poland is quite a backward and people can gain a better qualifications and skills abroad. However, from my point of view being a blue-collar worker in foreign country far from family does not mean “a better life”. I cannot imagine going abroad only in order to work. I do not know what can I do in a spare time while my family and friend stay in Poland. What is more, I believe that these days market conditions in Poland are not so poor that people cannot make a living in homeland.
ReplyDeleteThe article is about some reasons of the migrating of people. The author shows some statistics about the amount of people migrating to other countries. Today the migration of people is rather popular phenomenon. People migrate to find a better job, better life conditions. Migrating is also a great opportunity to see the life of other countries, to broaden a person’s mind, to learn foreign language etc. I agree with the author and I can say that people are always unsatisfied with what they have. They always want more and sometimes do not notice what they have. It connects with the human psychology. To my mind, if a person is not satisfied with the politics, with his job etc. in his native country, it is reasonable to go abroad to earn more money or for some other benefits. For example, if the foreign country is more developed than a person’s native country, it would be easier to develop a person’s skills or it would be possible to get a perfect higher education. These factors would help the person to achieve success or just have better career prospects.
ReplyDeleteFor me it is worth it to work abroad (for example as a student).
ReplyDeleteWages are better, one can develope language skills, and get know better the culture of country. Of course it is nice if one go there for example for few months, worse if for years and she/she go there because of bad financial situation.
For me it's very disturbing phenomenon. Most of these people had't got any choice to stay in their country or leave it, so we can't called it 'freedom'. They're forced to move, because their homeland don't give them basic, like opportunity for development or earning money (in the right way, of course). Even if the government will be creating new workplaces, workers will never be able to earn the same amount of money as they could earn in other countries. So it's the main reason for passage out the country.
ReplyDeleteIt is only natural that people follow comfort and well-being. If they cannot acquire it easily (or at all) in their country for whatever, various reasons, they'll search for it elsewhere. Nowadays, seasonal work migration became quite a common thing to do. For ages people from the Eastern countries have been trying to get closer to 'more developed' countries of the West. Not much has changed in that regard, even today.
ReplyDeleteNow the most popular destination for the labor migration of the Poles is Germany, where they declare readiness to go to 31.5% of Poles who are planning a labor migration abroad. This is caused both by geographical proximity and by the favorable situation in the German labor market. According to Eurostat, unemployment in Germany is only 3.4%, and there are 1.6 million vacancies on this labor market. The minimum wage in Germany is almost three times higher than in Poland.
ReplyDeleteEmigration has a lot of advantages but also number of disadvantages. People leave their country to find better life for them and their children and we can't blame them for that. But this isn't beneficial if we think about Poles generally. Because of emigration there is a huge lack of specialist in Poland, especially among doctors and nurses but also programmers and engineers prefer working abroad- they have more possibilities for finding job or developing themselves and of course better salaries. I understand their decision, but personally I couldn't leave Poland for the rest of my life. I want to try living and working in different country but for few months, maybe years, but not more. I wish I would have a choice and wouldn't be forced by circumstances.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately emigration in our country is quite popular in our mentality for three hundred years I think. That phenomenon exists when a country can not give it's people prosperity, development and quiet life. Unluckily our country has a lot of problems since XVIII century. In the presentation is written that the most popular country of Polish emigration is Great Britain. It will change in several months due to brexit. However, nowadays emigration rate is lower than several years ago. Of course, we should accept somebody's decision about departure but we also must better life conditions in our country for us and for every Pole in the whole world. It should be our organic work.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that people in Poland can be a little bit dissapointed with work conditions. Recently there are more and more people who strike and want higher wages. For example- teachers, farmers. Our government should definitely help unemployed people and these who work hard but are not satisfied.
ReplyDeleteThere could be also other reasons like development perspectives, improving laguage skills or participating in international projects.
In my opinion answer for question "Why poles are leaving?" is not that hard at all. I have a lot of friends travelling to Norway, England, France etc during holidays to earn money they will spend during academic year, when they don't have time to work. Some of them need to pay for university, some of them are from small villages and they wouldn't afford to live and study in Warsaw if not for the summer jobs abroad. The wage they earn in Norway is minimum, but when they convert it to PLN, they come back from the North as millionaires!
ReplyDeleteI think that emigration is a normal thing to appear in 21st century, in every country there are people who migrate, the perfect situation is if they do that for fun, to have an adventure of their life, to get to know new cultures, meet new people, but in many situations that’s not the case, many people migrate because there’s no job for them in their home country, there is no perspective for them to develope. Moving abroad gives people from countries like Poland, better life, more money, so that they are not as frustrated as when living here, working hard and not being paid enough. We also can’t forget about medical migrations, people who are sick and have enough money to go abroad, sometimes decide to go away and have treatments that aren’t available in their country. Nowadays the problem in Poland is not only low pays, but also politics and new laws, many people are frustrated with the decisions of the government, I personally know two families that went abroad during the term of PiS’s office. If nothing changes for better, I feel like more and more people will go abroad.
ReplyDeleteThe article is as up-to-date as possible. As a young person myself, I was looking for a seasonal job abroad, it turned out to be more profitable for me. In our country there are few opportunities for young people to earn well, we have to start somewhere and going abroad is a great way. It is not a dream job, but a greater chance for development. I know a couple of people who travel regularly to earn money, I fully understand them, especially when the financial situation is really difficult.
ReplyDeleteJobs abroad often pay just as well if not better than jobs at home and I think that it is the main reason for emigration. Many young people believe that the job market in their country doesn’t support their ambitions, or they feel restricted by the lack of prospects in their field of expertise and that's why they decide to move abroad.
ReplyDeleteIt's a popular phenomenon in last two decades that young Poles emigrate to other European countries. No wonder, it's hard for us to make a living after graduating from university. Moreover, we notice that young people in other European countries (especially those countries we emigrate to) are able to handle with adulthood and duties on their own and we just might feel annoyed and ashamed at once that we must ask parents or the others for help. Maybe lately situation got better but it's still not enough. I also consider emigration to Germany if things don't get better. I hope that young Poles will be soon appreciated and granted for their work abroad, so that we won't be called only "blue-collar workers".
ReplyDeletePoles especially young decide to work abroad. It is more comfortable for them becouse of higher wages, greater social suport or more posibilities to develop language skills. Unfortunately migration often have bad influence on families. We can meet families, in which men go abroad and earn money and women stays and takes care of children. This separation isn’t good for them surly.
ReplyDeleteIt is not suprising to me that a lot of people, especially the young ones decide to leave Poland. They have very little carrier opportunities in here and no prospects. Taking it under consideration, as well as the fact that house prices, grocery prices, gas prices and to be honest all the prices are skyrocketing it shouldn't be much of a suprise that people tend to seek for job abroad. It is not a good sign for Poland since the long-term effect of this brain drain will be the slowdown of the overall economic growth.
ReplyDeleteIn my environment, a lot of my friends have left and have started work abroad. Part of them have abandonded Poland because of too small wages and lack of perspective (for example for own appartement). Those of my friends are blue-collar workers abroad. The proportions of polish salary and price of renting an apartment is not motivating. Other friends have left Poland and have been studying at foreign universties. Economic and political situation in Poland doesn't encourage young people to stay there.
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ReplyDeleteIn recent years, Poles choose England less and less often as the country to which they emigrate. Currently, Germany or Denmark are much more popular. I think that one of the reasons may be the exit of Great Britain from the European Union and the flood of Great Britain by immigrants from other countries, especially African ones.
I can understand why people migrate west in search of better jobs, or a better quality of life. For many people, life in our country can be difficult and even if they have to start over somewhere with learning the language and working for minimum wage, it can seem like a much better alternative.
ReplyDeleteWhen someone leaves their country, they force themselves to start their lifes over. They learn how to communicate (commonly using the simpliest expressions), trying to meet people to make friends, explore city environment and culture. Just like children. In the motherland they forsake everything they had. To me it's extremely hard decision and it's incomprehensible because to my mind Polish wages are not so bad. Nevertheless I understand desire of young people to pursue better working conditions.
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